I am having a very difficult time, our accidents are increasing, spoke with Michelle earlier and was encouraged to change my reinforcement, I changed from cocomelon to trampoline, which I agreed he does enjoy more. He is constantly having accidents in between scheduled time as well as going at schedule time.
Answer:
Ok, so lets breakdown what we do know and I'm going to ask questions in the process:
Let me know if what I am summarizing is accurate:
1. You've changed the reward from cocomelon to trampoline, do you feel this is a 10 on the desire scale? If not, what number would you give it?
1a. How long does he get on the trampoline each time he eliminates in the toilet?
2. You've had both successes and accidents. Meaning he is using the toilet on a schedule but he is also having accidents in between. How often are you taking him?
3. When he is going is he "kinking the hose" or "emptying the tank"? Kinking the hose is when hes got a steady stream and he just cuts it off in the middle. Emptying tank is pee'ing till the stream goes from strong, steady to weak to drip drop.
4. Tell me what is happening when he has the accidents?
Let me know.
Ok, so lets breakdown what we do know and I’m going to ask questions in the process:
Let me know if what I am summarizing is accurate:
1. You’ve changed the reward from cocomelon to trampoline, do you feel this is a 10 on the desire scale? If not, what number would you give it?
1a. How long does he get on the trampoline each time he eliminates in the toilet?
2. You’ve had both successes and accidents. Meaning he is using the toilet on a schedule but he is also having accidents in between. How often are you taking him?
3. When he is going is he “kinking the hose” or “emptying the tank”? Kinking the hose is when hes got a steady stream and he just cuts it off in the middle. Emptying tank is pee’ing till the stream goes from strong, steady to weak to drip drop.
4. Tell me what is happening when he has the accidents?
Let me know.
Yes the trampoline is at a 10.
1a. 5 min for pee and 30 for poop, and this is the only time he gets the trampoline. We also have a chair that we use when trampoline is not accessible.
2. Yes successes and accidents, that correct on a schedule but having accidents in between. Schedule time is 45 min, but school is doing 30 min, so I started back doing 30 minutes.
3. He is emptying the tank.
4. Accidents has happened at different times just sitting, playing with toys, even within 5-10 minutes after going.
Thanks
Confirming he’s in underwear during all of this yes?
What happens currently when he has an accident?
So if accidents happen in between i would tighten the window like you’ve just started doing for every 30 mins. How is that going? When did you start it?
If he’s emptying the tank every 30-45mins then he technically wouldn’t have accidents in between unless he’s drinking excessive amounts. What do you think?
The data collection at this point is going to be key. He’s having success as well as accidents so to help your brain we need to get clear data and you can use the last page of the potty pocket guide to do this.
Can you use the toilet training data sheet and record for the next 2 days or so how many accidents happen. In particular I want you to note how many accidents, how many successes, listen for emptying of the bladder and when he does have accidents note the following:
ABC Data:
A = Antecedent: what happen before the accident = what was he doing
B= Behavior: The accident where was he.. what happen, was it a full or partial accident (starts in pants, ends in toilet)
C= Consequence: What happened right after the accident, his reaction, clean up, etc.
Reply back with this and lets see how we do.
You’re doing good mama, we’ve dialed in the reward now we just need to start consistent he’s on his way.
Yes he is in underwear all day except for bed time.
With accidents, I have him help me dump poop and wash underwear.
For 30 min going on three days since he had so many accidents this week. I can try cut down liquid and see.
I will print guide and use.
Thanks
I think before you reduce liquids you collect the data today and let me know how many successful eliminations and how many accidents.
When accidents happens get the ABC data.
Really pay attention if at each visit he is emptying his bladder.
Some kids are so smart they game the system, meaning ” know if I let a little out I get my trampoline so I’ll throw her a few squirts of pee or one little poop rock”. If you feel like that is what is going on you need to tell him no you need to squeeze it all out.
Let me know how it goes today.
Thanks
Hello
We had a total of 15 attempts and 5 accidents.
1: BM a little after breakfast, which is not the norm.
2: was less than a minute before timer, where he was playing.
3: was first attempt after nap 1 1/2 hours
4&5 before timer, he was playing.
Thanks
Consequences
1: he helped dumping poop in toilet and washed underwear.
2-5; we sat on the potty still and was redirected about peeing in the toilet.
Ok to confirm 15 attempts, 5 accidents, how many successes?
ABC data needs to be clear on accidents only.
1. What was going on before the accident
2. Details on the accident
3. What happen after each accident
Keep track tomorrow – and come back and share – please also confirm every 30mins is still schedule
Thx
Hello
Today we had 13 attempts, 7 successes, 4 accidents and 2 no elimination. All successes and accidents were pee related.
I have noticed that in the morning he can hold a bit longer so I started with 45 minutes and moved down to 30 minutes in afternoon after nap (today from 12:15 – 1:55).
Accidents:
First:
A= he was playing and happened 7 minutes before timer for next potty break.
B= in the living room and was a full pee on himself.
C= He was showed the potty sign and a picture and was taken to the toilet, where he sat for two minutes, however he did not eliminate. We spoke about pee goes in the toilet after which helped washing underwear.
Second
A= Happened about 15 minutes after first accident while eating a snack.
B = In the living room, he started wiggling and then started peeing,
C= Was rushed to bathroom, where he sat for 5 minutes, where he eliminated. We celebrated, he had a big smile on his face. We spoke about pee goes in the toilet after which helped washing underwear.
Third
A= Suddenly noticed his underwear was wet, was cold.
B= In the couch playing.
C= was taken to the toilet, where he sat for five minutes, however he did not eliminate. We spoke about pee goes in the toilet after which helped washing underwear.
Fourth
A= noticed his underwear was wet, when he was taken to potty based on schedule, it was cold.
B=on the potty.
C= We spoke about pee goes in the toilet after which helped washing underwear.
Hope I did better today, thanks.
Sounds like you are! When they play they get super focused but you’re catching it more and Learning his tells. Keep it up mama! When playing – remind him “we keep undies dry and if you go you get trampoline”. For half accidents when’re it starts in undies and finished in toilet he gets reward –
Do the same thing tomorrow and report back! You’re both doing great!!!
Hello we had 10 attempts today
5 successes( 4 pee and 1BM)
2 no elimination
3 accidents
First
A= came back in the living room and realized that he took his underwear off and peed in the couch.
B= In the living room , was a bit fussy
C= was taken to the toilet, where he sat for five minutes, however he did not eliminate. We spoke about pee goes in the toilet after which helped washing underwear.
Second
A= noticed his underwear was wet, when he was taken to potty based on schedule, it was cold.
B=on the potty.
C= We spoke about pee goes in the toilet after which helped washing underwear.
Third
A= noticed his underwear was wet, when he was taken to potty based on schedule, it was cold.
B=on the potty.
C= We spoke about pee goes in the toilet after which helped washing underwear.
Thanks
Ok first off how are you feeling so far?
When it comes to data collection on your accidents this is what I’m picking up…
#1 he doesn’t like to be wet – such a good thing because he’s feeling it and responding by taking the undies off
#2 when we are at this stage we want to limit movements and keep him close. So he still needs to be told when to go and this is until we get to 80% success or better. If u have to leave the vicinity take him with you. We want to minimize the opportunity for accidents that can happen when we don’t see it at this stage.
When it’s cold means it was sitting for awhile but if you focus on #2 above this should keep improving.
I’m so proud of you and him – everything is going great – keep at it mama and keep me posted
Thanks, data is providing information for what I should be looking for. Fingers crossed will help limit our accidents.
We only had 2 accidents today.
It’s trending in the right direction. Good job mama!!